Norcott wrote:Xest your so full of shit.. talk about egotistical, U think u know everything about anything thats posted on this forum..
That's it, let it all out.
Norcott wrote:u take control of posts where u should keep away from as an Admin you suit your self what gets blocked and what doesnt, you over rule your own mods to suit..
Actually, I'd say that as I'd moved the thread and that Satyn deleted it that she'd over-ruled me, however as she admitted in the private forum she hadn't read the full thread and so hence it was undeleted. Perhaps you shouldn't bitch about things you have no idea whatsoever about. Honestly, is it worth me even moving threads like this somewhere less visible in future if I'm going to get bitched at for it anyway? Someone more reasonable may feel that moving the thread further out of public sight would be a fair compromise however apparently not according to you.
Norcott wrote:You know as well as i do that freeshards is breaking the law of some discription but u are to far up ur own arse to admit it and be proven wrong...
No they're not, I've listed all the details in this thread you need to look into reverse engineering laws i.e. the precident set by the Sega vs. Accolade case. You can't prove someone wrong by claiming something with no evidence or justification whatsoever as much as you seem to think you can.
Norcott wrote:ill continue to do my stuff as an e&e and report this kind of stuff as and when it rises its ugly head and if your happy to have all over a public board which you are Admin of then so be it..
You do that, I'm not stopping you.
norcott wrote:I know for a fact that Goa gms dont bother coming here (which they used to frequently and post here) other people no longer come to the boards for the same reason..
Oh well.
Norcott wrote:I actually think that you dont do to bad as an Admin but i do think you need to keep some of your personal opinions to youself as your position is as such on the forum..
So I'm not allowed to discuss things on a discussion forum? As I said I think I made the right choice in not outright deleting the thread because there clearly are some people who want to discuss it whilst at the same time others don't want it in blatant view of active players - moving it somewhere else is the most balance compromise possible, if I had some kind of personal agenda I'd merely have left it in the main forum.
Norcott wrote:I also would like you to back up to me and others that have posted regarding the legality of freeshards, you seem quick to ask it to be backed up when people say it is illegal so im asking you right now to show me and others that it isnt illegal.
Huh? I'm actively studying reverse engineering and the laws surrounding it right now so it's a subject that I just happen to know the current stance on, it's not about "backing someone up" it's about providing discussion and bringing forth the facts about the issue rather than spreading random bs to fit an agenda. In some respects I have backed up your side of the argument, I've accepted that it has the potential to pull other people away from the game should we get the point where people feel freeshards are better and I respect that, hence why I made the compromise to move the thread here in the first place rather than leave it in the main forum.
From the relevant part of EU law:
1. The authorization of the rightholder shall not be required where reproduction of the code and translation of its form within the meaning of Article 4 (a) and (b) are indispensable to obtain the information necessary to achieve the interoperability of an independantly created computer program with other programs, provided that the following conditions are met:
(a) these acts are performed by the licensee or by another person having a right to use a copy of a program, or on their behalf by a person authorized to to so]
Put simply it states that if you are a licensee of the program, which you are having bought it that you're legally allowed to reverse engineer without rightholder (Mythic/GOA) permission to get the information required to acheive interoperability of an independently developed program which is what the freeshard server is.
Honestly is this enough evidence for you or are you going to say the European courts are completely wrong also?